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Happy Thanksgiving
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Hiram Freeborn
2024-10-14 19:25:17 UTC
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There are only 5 of us tonight so the bird will hold more than enough.
Be sure and get the rest of the friends an rellies here on RFC with ya -
they'll appreciate all the conviviality, true hospitality, and familial
warmth that comes from a bully group like this so much you may not even
need to make a turkey next year!
Hiram Freeborn
2024-10-14 19:28:16 UTC
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Could you have requested the turkey be split down the middle
and frozen for a later date??
How do you stuff a split turkey? It's just a vessel for stuffing.
I don't know, I've never stuffed a turkey and know no one
who has.
You surely are benighted. Stuffing benefits greatly from absorbing
the juices from the turkey.
I can't imagine a turkey without stuffing. Hell, you might as skip the
gravy too. Stuffing was always an integral part of a roasted turkey in
my family and my wife's. To the best of my knowledge, there are only a
couple people in my extended family who don't like it, and one of those
is an extremely picky eater who doesn't like just about everything. My
wife is a low carber and does not eat bread, but even she has a little
stuffing.
Many people bake it in a separate dish. When I was a kid, we
had some inside the turkey and some baked in a separate dish.
Each one had its adherents.
Top tip:

For the separate stuffing dish to flavor up it's useful to take anything
not used in giblet gravy (neck, hearts, giblets, wing tips) an lay them
over the stuffing before cooking. Enough turkey flavor and fat will seep
down in to make it equally as tasty as cavity stuffing. Also add some
extra broth for moisture.
Hiram Freeborn
2024-10-14 19:31:40 UTC
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I can't imagine a turkey without stuffing.  Hell, you might as skip the
gravy too.
Them's fighting words Officer Pecksniff!
Hiram Freeborn
2024-10-14 19:35:05 UTC
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By coincidence, they were just a few hundred yards from where the other
group had had a similar experience, and at the same time.  It turned out
these two groups have been howling to each other.
Howling was Covid morale builder in some places, oddly:

https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/colorado-coronavirus-howling-moon-scream-stay-at-home-order-pandemic-denver/

DENVER (AP) — It starts with a few people letting loose with some
tentative yelps. Then neighbors emerge from their homes and join,
forming a roiling chorus of howls and screams that pierces the twilight
to end another day's monotonous forced isolation.

From California to Colorado to Georgia and New York, Americans are
taking a moment each night at 8 p.m. to howl in a quickly spreading
ritual that has become a wrenching response of a society cut off from
one another by the coronavirus pandemic.

They howl to thank the nation's health care workers and first responders
for their selfless sacrifices, much like the balcony applause and
singing in Italy and Spain. Others do it to reduce their pain, isolation
and frustration. Some have other reasons, such as to show support for
the homeless.

In Colorado, Gov. Jared Polis has encouraged residents to participate.
Children who miss their classmates and backyard dogs join in, their own
yowls punctuated by the occasional fireworks, horn blowing and bell ringing.

RELATED: LISTEN: Elk Joins People Howling At Moon During Stay-At-Home Order

"There's something very Western about howling that's resonating in
Colorado. The call-and-response aspect of it. Most people try it and
love to hear the howl in return," said Brice Maiurro, a poet,
storyteller and activist who works at National Jewish Health.

The nightly howl is a primal affirmation that provides a moment's bright
spot each evening by declaring, collectively: We shall prevail, said Dr.
Scott Cypers, director of Stress and Anxiety programs at the Helen and
Arthur E. Johnson Depression Center at the University of Colorado
Anschutz Medical Campus. It's a way to take back some of the control
that the pandemic-forced social isolation has forced everyone to give
up, Cypers said.

"The virus' impact is very different for everyone, and this is a way to
say, 'This sucks,' and get it out in a loud way," Cypers said. "Just
being able to scream and shout and let out pent-up grief and loss is
important. Little kids, on the other hand, are really enjoying this."

Maiurro and his partner, Shelsea Ochoa, a street activist and artist,
formed the Facebook group Go Outside and Howl at 8 p.m. The group has
nearly half a million members from all 50 U.S. states and 99 countries
since they created it as Colorado's shelter-in-place order went into
effect last month.

"We wanted to do this mostly because people are feeling isolated right
now," said Ochoa, 33, who works at the Denver Museum of Nature &
Science. "I think it hit on something others needed."
Hiram Freeborn
2024-10-14 19:58:15 UTC
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I don't know how anyone thinks a stuffing in a bird will feed
about 20 people at a Thanksgiving feast.
No possible way - that requires a separate covered dish of stuffing.
And lots of other sides, brought pot luck style.
Which is what Thanksgiving was meant to be from the get go.
A feast for many, made by many.
Yes!  A very large dish of dressing and yes, everybody
contributes something to the feast so the host is not
worn to a frazzle when it's time to eat.  Nor are they
broke from the expense of the meal.
Ding!

This may be one old tradition where despite the absence of first
nations' peoples at the tables across the land we at least got the
intent and spirit of it right.

Our rcent sample cost for the spread by year:


https://www.fb.org/news-release/farm-bureau-survey-shows-thanksgiving-dinner-cost-up-20

Nov 16, 2022
Spending time with family and friends at Thanksgiving remains important
for many Americans and this year the cost of the meal is also top of
mind. Farm Bureau’s 37th annual survey provides a snapshot of the
average cost of this year’s classic Thanksgiving feast for 10, which is
$64.05 or less than $6.50 per person. This is a $10.74 or 20% increase
from last year’s average of $53.31.

https://www.kiplinger.com/taxes/cost-of-thanksgiving-dinner

2023
The cost of Thanksgiving dinner for 10 people was down about three
dollars from last year, according to the American Farm Bureau Federation
(AFBF). But the average cost for 2023 is still $61.17, which is more
expensive than in any pre-pandemic year.

And your holiday dinner cost was likely higher if you swapped out turkey
for ham or cranberry sauce for a veggie tray. That’s because, aside from
whipping cream, those items decreased the most in price from last year.

But what you eat isn’t the only factor determining the cost of
Thanksgiving dinner. People in some areas of the United States are
expected to pay more this year. Taxes on groceries also play a role in
some states.

Now up in Saskatchewan, wow - here's inflation for ya:

https://www.discoverweyburn.com/articles/how-much-does-a-thanksgiving-meal-cost-lets-find-out

After a fun shopping spree, it was revealed that the average cost of a
Thanksgiving dinner can hit around $112.

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